\nNathan Ingram opens his virtual office doors during this informal, unstructured webinar to answer your questions. There is no agenda and no planned content. Bring your questions and Nathan will answer them first come, first served. Get your answers and learn from the questions of others.\n\n\n\nRegister once for all Office Hours from July - September, 2024.\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n","EventOrganizerNames":"Nathan Ingram","inline_featured_image":"","footnotes":"","livestream_public":1,"is_multi-day_event":0,"livestream_zoom_registration_link":"https:\/\/us06web.zoom.us\/webinar\/register\/WN_mdTdrWEuSKyWaKWYQNpN8A","livestream_replay_set":0,"mbfp_count":"s:15:\"a:1:{i:0;i:19;}\";","livestream_chat_log":"https:\/\/drive.google.com\/file\/d\/1wV3TBVP6PIzAlGuxsyhH4XMxDJIurWgr\/view?usp=sharing","livestream_live_transcript_url":"https:\/\/otter.ai\/u\/Io5zRqCVU7Fxh0UmgmwtuaBADYw?utm_source=copy_url","livestream_live_transcript_text":"Welcome everybody\r\n\r\nall right, glad you're all here. We're a few minutes away from getting started. About five minutes out.\r\n\r\nPlenty of space to ask questions today if you've got a question to ask the link is there in the chat?\r\n\r\nhope everybody's had a good week. Let me hear from you in the chat. What are you been working on? This week?\r\n\r\nAnybody taking some time off?\r\n\r\nJust a little less a little over. Three minutes to go. We'll get going with Office Hours here momentarily.\r\n\r\nGlad everybody's here\r\n\r\nplenty of space again to ask questions today. It looks like we have three questions in the queue\r\n\r\nHey, Ben, I cannabis really nice actually.\r\n\r\nYeah, I walked around the\r\n\r\nin the city this this morning\r\n\r\nin Ottawa.\r\n\r\nGood to see everybody popping in here. If you have a question to ask link is in the chat. We've got about three minutes to go before we get started.\r\n\r\nA class\r\n\r\nthe word camp here officially gets underway tomorrow morning. Looking forward to that.\r\n\r\nWelcome, everybody hope you're doing well.\r\n\r\nLet us know how things are going this week for you. They're in the chat. What do you what have you been working on?\r\n\r\nYeah, so it's actually well, it rained all day so far here today. Kind of a just a light misty rain. But the temperatures nice. It's definitely cooler than the 95 degree.\r\n\r\nTemperature. I left in Birmingham yesterday.\r\n\r\nHey, Sue.\r\n\r\nI still walked around downtown Ottawa this morning though. Got to see the little short tours of the Canadian Senate in the House of Commons which was pretty cool.\r\n\r\nYou have a question to ask. Link is in the chat.\r\n\r\nA sad\r\n\r\njust three questions in the list right now.\r\n\r\nYes, Sue\r\n\r\nMinneapolis. Is that way to tunnels connect everything. It's pretty cool tunnels into walkways between buildings. Elevated covered walkways pretty neat.\r\n\r\nI'm yet to go to Montreal. I hope to one day\r\n\r\nI was thinking I might be able to fit a drive over to Montreal in while I was here in Ottawa but it's not going to happen.\r\n\r\nAlright folks about a minute to go.\r\n\r\nYou have a question to ask link is in the chat. And please do ask we only have three questions in the list today. So it will be it we always end up filling the time. Right. Always ended up having plenty of things to talk about.\r\n\r\nThe POTUS is the Vice President of the United States\r\n\r\nAll right, everybody, let me get the recording started and we will dive right in\r\n\r\nAll right. Welcome, everybody to office hours here on July 11 2025. Welcome to solid Academy. Glad you're here. We have a few questions in queue today. I am broadcasting from parts unknown here and well, pretty well known actually. A couple 100 yards away from the venue for CAP Canada. Which contributor day is happening right now the the word camp itself officially starts tomorrow. Really happy to be up here for that. So as always, Thursday afternoon, the doors open you can ask whatever you would like. Please do so we have plenty of space for questions today. Only three questions in the list. And we'll get started with those. So let's start with a question from Sue.\r\n\r\nLet's see here.\r\n\r\nAll right, Sue says making a Kadence video pop up unclickable until Okay, on the fourth TEDx sites I do we populate the speakers using the Kadence video pop up block. I hide the video arrow until the videos are edited for you too. But on mouseover the headshot is clickable which brings up a stupid pop up of the page you're looking at.\r\n\r\nQuestion How can i Is it even possible to use a video pop up block but make it unclickable until the videos are online image of the Stupid Pet popup is here.\r\n\r\nWell, why won't you let me open this? There we go.\r\n\r\nAlright, so this is what pops up if the video is not entered soon. Is that right? In the in the field in the pop up block. Okay.\r\n\r\nIf you're asking why I do it this way, it's easier to add the YouTube link a few weeks later than it is to replace every speakers photo with a video with a pop up. Video pop up. And yes, the goal is to keep them on the various TEDx sites. This is one of last year's pages\r\n\r\nAlright, so if we click someone here, does it give us the talk?\r\n\r\nGotcha.\r\n\r\nOkay.\r\n\r\nSo I could tell you how I would do it but it's not in Kadence. And that's not going to help you a lot here Sue.\r\n\r\nIdeally, you'd want to make that pop up. We'll see is this how do you have this built Sue is this is this the block itself where this information is kept? Is this a loop like a query loop of some kind?\r\n\r\nNot a query. So these are just individual. They're one by one.\r\n\r\nI mean, what I would do is I would build these this would be a custom post type for speakers. And then you know you'd have the details of each speaker\r\n\r\nyou know on that on that post type, and then a custom field for the YouTube video and then in the loop that displays the the posts from the custom post type. I would have a the link would be conditional based on whether or not there was data in that YouTube URL\r\n\r\nso\r\n\r\nhow can you and I don't know the answer this question can you in a Kadence Can you make a Kadence block visibility based on the value of a custom field like if this custom field value is set then show the block I know we can do that in Beaver Builder\r\n\r\njust give me a text blob. Let me just type\r\n\r\nhere we go.\r\n\r\nLet's see advanced.\r\n\r\nMaybe this needs to be advanced text. So we have some Kadence stuff to work with here. All right, let's see.\r\n\r\nInitial display.\r\n\r\nPost custom field is not empty. Okay. So you could since you're using blocks what I would do if I were you is and I'm assuming you have a row with these boxes with these. Okay, so what I would do is I would have a block or you know if you're designing it this way, this is an InfoBox could you could use the Info Box module and Kadence with the image, the title and then this information right here right.\r\n\r\nAnd have that have the info box with no link.\r\n\r\nThat would be not clickable or that would be if the custom field is not set show the info box without a link if the custom field and just have two, two modules stacked on top of each other right in that column.\r\n\r\nAnd then one will show in one well as soon as the is the YouTube URL, a custom field or no you're just adding these manually, aren't you?\r\n\r\nThis isn't going to work as easily because you're you're adding all this manually right\r\n\r\nyeah, these are like posts and a custom post type.\r\n\r\nWell, to be honest, so the easiest way to do this is not then with a video pop up, it would just be make it an info box and then link it pop open a new tab to the actual YouTube URL. That's going to be the easiest thing or even\r\n\r\nI would still build this as a custom post type where each speaker has their own page maybe has their bio, embed the video. They're just all on that one page.\r\n\r\nSo there's a couple of options there.\r\n\r\nThe BIOS are on the site speed speakers.\r\n\r\nAnd I'm running this off of and this is an iPad display that I'm sharing so it's okay so but this is okay\r\n\r\nwhere is this where the speaker bios?\r\n\r\nOh, it's a text under the photo. Okay, that's really confusing.\r\n\r\nYeah. Okay. So what I would do Sue if I were you, is I would build a custom post type for speakers. And then you've got with a Kadence element. You can set up this layout of the template for for the speaker. And then when you click like, it is unclear to me that Oh, I click the picture I get the YouTube video. But if I click this, I get the bio that's unclear so what I would do is click on the speaker bring it up to their page, embed their video somewhere in there. You know when you look at this long thing.\r\n\r\nMaybe the video is up here full width at the top or put it underneath or maybe not make the picture so big you just come up with a design but have a landing page for the speaker where their video lives. That's what I would do\r\n\r\nYeah, that I think that'll simplify things. For you. Because you could build a custom post type that has, you know, there's social links and the the YouTube URL once it gets there. And you can have a video the Kadence video module that's conditional on or the row where that video sits. That's conditional on whether or not that YouTube URL is exists or not. And that will just make this a whole lot easier to manage. Does that make sense?\r\n\r\nWhat if I use the background picture on the current page and put a pop up video on top of it?\r\n\r\nWhy would I not understand why you would want while like the purpose of that\r\n\r\nbackground picture on the current page. Yeah, I would just make it a page for the speaker that has their video in because after the event that people are going to want to click on the speaker see their video that's the first thing they'd see. Make it big at the top and or the maybe name or you can arrange it however it's going to be but that's what I would do. I think that makes the most sense.\r\n\r\nYeah, good. All right. So if we we put that to bed\r\n\r\nAll righty.\r\n\r\nOkay, next up is Sadie.\r\n\r\nOkay, so thanks for this little setup here, Sadie.\r\n\r\nThere was I mentioned last week on office hours about a beta for the new solid cash plugin my beta signup from 2011 seems to have expired. Yeah, it's different now. Anyway.\r\n\r\nWhere to sign up for the beta? Yes. Okay. So where you're gonna go is here let me share this link.\r\n\r\nSo if you want to check out the new solid performance, I was going to do that at some point today anyway, but it's solid WP slash solid dash performance. And you will be able to add your email and download the plugin.\r\n\r\nHere's what it looks like.\r\n\r\nSo once you download it\r\n\r\nso at current at the current time, solid performance is only page caching. Okay, so it doesn't do any CSS or JavaScript optimization or any of that sort of thing yet. This is the beginning beta level of the plugin. So once solid performance is active, it lives nicely down here under settings, so it doesn't take up a giant little link on your sidebar. And it's pretty straightforward. There's there's setting to enable or disable the page cache. And then here under Advanced, there's the possibility for excluding URLs. Now, like David mentioned last week, it automatically detects if you have WooCommerce working for example, and it automatically doesn't cache the relevant pages that are related to WooCommerce. So take a look at this. You know you can download it play around with it is is a beta version, so I'm not sure I would put it on production sites. But once you sign up for the Portree email address in there, you get this page confirmation that will download the plugin for you. And then they give you some things to test. Right just a couple of things.\r\n\r\nTo take a look at if you want to test the plugin. This also comes to you as an email. So that's the deal was solid performance.\r\n\r\nSo thanks for asking that question.\r\n\r\nAny anybody have questions or comments about solid performance?\r\n\r\nYeah, this is this is the like I say it's the beginnings of this plugin that they're going to build out with additional features.\r\n\r\nYeah.\r\n\r\nSo long term goal is to build a plugin that makes your site's faster all the way around.\r\n\r\nThen why is why solid performance because the whole what solid WP is is a collection of plugins that are foundational for your WordPress site. So the work is going to be building plugins that every site is going to need that play nicely with everything else in our ecosystem.\r\n\r\nAll right.\r\n\r\nGood question. Any other questions or comments about that?\r\n\r\nThere are other solid plugins on the way All right. Next question also from Sadie.\r\n\r\nAll right. During the past week, I'm getting a bunch of spam hits showing up and clean talk reporting. Giving the same info there'll be fastest cache preload bought interesting. This sites effector are all running the fastest cache latest version everything else on the sites also running the latest versions of everything. Is this one of those false positives you've mentioned in relation to clean talk probably. I remember they pee fast as cash was mentioned in a previous security round up, but I thought the latest version had the issue fixed. Yeah. So if I had to guess like the way fastest cache works, is there's probably a setting that you have checked in your fastest cache settings. Where it's a it's called a predictive load is the term for this and it's when a user mouse's over a link on your site, whether it's a button or a menu link or an image that has a hyperlink or whatever it is that a, a presumptive load or a preload goes out and loads that page before the user actually clicks on. It's a presumptive click. They haven't actually clicked yet. But we think they're going to click because they're hovering on it. So we're gonna go ahead and grab that page. So when I click on it, boom, it shows up really quickly, right? So it feels a lot faster to the user. Now, I don't know for sure, but just based on the name of this preload bot, that's probably what this is and for some reason, clean talk doesn't like it.\r\n\r\nSo you're probably safe, probably safe to look at some of the characteristics of that record and clean talk and then whitelist it or allow listed whatever however, clean talk refers to it. Because this is legitimate traffic, right. And yeah, so you're saying it's only showed up in the last week. You know, it could be you know, clean talk is it's a third party SAS firewall, so they may have updated some of their algorithm, and now they're tracking this legitimate bot, right? So I would reach out to clean talk and tell them what you're seeing. But it's probably okay to whitelist this, I don't think any spam bot would try spoofing, fastest cache, but yeah, this is a sort of thing that we just quit using clean talk a long time ago.\r\n\r\nIt can be very heavy handed when it comes to legitimate traffic.\r\n\r\nAnd, you know, it's not to say it's a spam bot. It's it's always the balance. out of, you know, how, how much do I ratchet up my settings versus how much do I affect legitimate traffic? It's always hard. It's going to be a balance. And in this case, it looks like clean talk is leaning too far, to the little too aggressive.\r\n\r\nGood, great question. Any other thoughts comments on that? Anybody else seeing that, by the way?\r\n\r\nI can't really comment because yeah, we we've been away from clean talk for gosh, a couple of years. I think now.\r\n\r\nIt's been a while.\r\n\r\nAlrighty. Next up by the way, if you have a question to ask still plenty of space to do so there in the chat. Then be\r\n\r\nit Ben All right. Ah, update on the buddy. Boss permalinks issue a couple of weeks ago turns out that after reiterating multiple times to their support what the issue was, they provided an updated code snippet to ensure the permalinks will not need to be received after core and BuddyBoss. We'll see how it goes. Interesting. But oh, by the way, before we go there, how many of you saw the buddy boss news this week?\r\n\r\nHang on a minute.\r\n\r\nBuddy boss, has been acquired by the awesome motive team. Awesome motive is the team that bought it up, you know OptinMonster dopey beginner. They bought so many things they bought.\r\n\r\nAll In One SEO helped me they bought a bunch of stuff.\r\n\r\nYeah, so anyway, they're committed the future, you know, continuing development and so forth. So here we go. They pee forms they pee mail. SMTP duplicator.\r\n\r\nYeah, so lots of things member press and WishList Member or investors are they've invested in those plugins. So anyway, it's a reasonably good organization. The founder is very smart. Side bulky, it's been around for quite a while in the WordPress space. So BuddyBoss acquired interesting.\r\n\r\nAll righty. Oh, I didn't do the second part of the question.\r\n\r\nThere. They are also about to roll out in that bed for solid security. Excellent lesson on not giving up trying to communicate to support and an overseas country that doesn't speak English as its first language. Interesting. All right. So Ben, you stayed at it right.\r\n\r\nAnd they finally listened to you stickability. Thank you.\r\n\r\nSo they finally listened to you and they applied the patch. I gotta say I am probably as guilty as anyone about just finally giving up with support that, like, for example, I was back and forth with a plugin developer this week. And I kid you not the answer was, well, it works in my development environment. I'm not sure what's wrong with your server.\r\n\r\nOkay.\r\n\r\nYeah.\r\n\r\nAnyway, yeah, so that's good news. So everybody follow Ben's example of staying on it with support. Good stuff.\r\n\r\nAll right.\r\n\r\nNext up is Ben.\r\n\r\nOh, this is the same Ben still been be alright. As Nathan is on tour again. I wouldn't call it that. But is there anything you've changed or improved on your travel setup?\r\n\r\nUm, I gotta tell you, I'm really really rusty on this on travel. Back when I was doing like 15 to 20 word camps a year before the pandemic. I didn't nail down I had checklists and all that stuff. And I had that it's been so long since I traveled last for business. I kind of had to go back to go back to the start.\r\n\r\nNothing really has changed. I've got you know, I've got my cables in my nice little grid of cables here and not a whole lot honestly has changed. I've started traveling with his iPad now for a secondary display, which is kind of nice. But yeah, aside from not having to carry quite as many cables anymore because my iPhone is now USB just like my USBC like my laptop and iPad are that's kind of nice. But aside from that, yeah.\r\n\r\nNot a whole lot.\r\n\r\nTrying to think of anything interesting.\r\n\r\nNo.\r\n\r\nWhich wish I had better. I am loving this this case I got for my iPhone, which is has a wallet built in four cards.\r\n\r\nSo carry a wallet when I travel. So that's kind of nice. And it's not like one of those big bulky wallet, phones.\r\n\r\nIt's kind of nice. So I use Apple Pay whenever I can, but I've learned always travel with a card because there will ultimately be someplace that doesn't take Apple Pay.\r\n\r\nAnd they you know it's going to take an actual credit card and always carry a little bit of cash.\r\n\r\nYeah,\r\n\r\nall right. Yeah, I wish I had better like\r\n\r\nDon't you have the card on the phone? Virtual Yes. So the the credit card my business card that I carry here is in Apple Pay. But as soon as I don't bring the physical card, it's going to I'm going to have I'm going to need some vendor is not going to have what I need. Everything I get in life then comes from Amazon, Costco or Amazon\r\n\r\nthis case is called Smart ish. Why kind of smart but not really. It was an Amazon deal. I don't know. It's pretty good. I like it a lot. I had a version of this case for my previous iPhone two that I really like. It's really been in light. So yeah, I'm like I'm serious. Everything in my world is from Costco or Amazon. It's kind of sad. I guess that's like the state of life.\r\n\r\nYeah.\r\n\r\nYeah, bad man. Be nice to have Klarna we don't have that here in the States.\r\n\r\nWe do have Klarna\r\n\r\ndid not know that\r\n\r\nAll right, everybody. Let's see here.\r\n\r\nDownward last question. So you know, class is up.\r\n\r\nAll right class SEO.\r\n\r\nE commerce site. The clients SEO provider insists that there must be a boatload of text at the top of every product gallery page.\r\n\r\nHe said that will massively help SEO for the site.\r\n\r\nAll right. Well, let's see what we're talking about.\r\n\r\nOkay, I say this feels like massive word salad.\r\n\r\nIt just means actual visitors will have to scroll to even see products especially on the phone. When checking around their competitors either don't have any text mass above the product gallery or just wanted to sort of short lines where every word is relevant to the category. Will having this verbiage actually help SEO or should we go for a better user experience less text? Okay, so does keyword targeted text help on a category page such as this? Absolutely.\r\n\r\nDoes this much text help? Probably not. When you start talking about the weight of text and SEO it needs to be a lot of text.\r\n\r\nAnd there needs to be headings. Like this, I'm assuming is the h1 Is this the h1 of the app so fine jewelry is the h1 you'd really want so well. So what is the what are the products or the h2 is and this grid?\r\n\r\nOkay, they're h2 So I mean, this is not bad, actually.\r\n\r\nSo I guess class I guess the thing is, here we need to quantify two terms in this question. The first is Boatload. The second is massively okay. So\r\n\r\nthis text does not add the the five second perusing of this tax that I just did.\r\n\r\nThis doesn't appear to be really keyword rich text. There's nothing particularly specific here.\r\n\r\nThe product names are pretty specific.\r\n\r\nBut I don't know. So.\r\n\r\nThe question is, is it worth fighting over? I don't know. I does the client like the text there.\r\n\r\nBecause the other thing you could do is move the text down below. The position on the page shouldn't matter. You know, is this better than not? I?\r\n\r\nYeah, I wouldn't be happy with all this text.\r\n\r\nYou know, if this were somehow this is just, this is just blah, blah, blah. Or like you said word salad. This, nobody's going to read that. You know, and if all other things aside, okay. What have we learned for those of you that have been around for a while what have we learned over time without SEO? Google always, always always rewards content that meets user search intent. They reward content that is helpful to the end user, right? So that's the litmus test. It's not just oh, I'm gonna put a paragraph of text on that page, the AI. Does this text actually help the user? Does anybody care about this potentially AI generated blob of text?\r\n\r\nI don't think so.\r\n\r\nI think you would like okay, if I was going to do content marketing for an E commerce site, or if I was going to try to improve the SEO of an E commerce site. That kind of text is not where I would spend my time. I would, you know, blow out your actual product descriptions. Maybe they already are. Also, I would spend time on a blog where you're actually you can do a long form content about certain types of you know how to select a wedding ring or you know, that sort of thing, right, and then embed products into the blog post. That's a much better approach. This, you know, if, first of all jewelry is sort of commoditized like there's really no difference probably between what they do and what other people do in this sort of generic tax is not going to help them. If this was a you know, custom jewelry manufacturer.\r\n\r\nMaybe he would talk about craftsmanship and that whatever but like the blob of text needs to have keywords that match user intent, right or it needs to be helpful. So I don't know. I'm kind of tossed around in the circle. Did any of that make sense? Does that help\r\n\r\nyou know, I a side note to this conversation is how do we as web developers, interact with SEO people?\r\n\r\nThat can get tricky, right? Like what I would not want to do is get into a poo flinging contest with the SEO person, right? Because\r\n\r\nyou know, is it it's just not worth it. It makes things really difficult. When you've got the SEO and the clients caught in the middle SEO person says this, you're saying that and I had gets all it gets all mixed up.\r\n\r\nI don't know I choose my battles when it comes to SEO people in content changes like this.\r\n\r\nIf the client doesn't like that block of text, I Well, I mean, the one nice thing about SEO is that it can be numerically quantified. So how long has that paragraph of text been on this page? And has it meaningfully increased traffic to that page?\r\n\r\nIf it hasn't, then I would say you know, it's not really doing anything for us there. And it kind of gets in the way of user experience. So let's bump it.\r\n\r\nOh, it was a longer block before class\r\n\r\nYeah.\r\n\r\nOh word salad and oh, so they just keyword stuffed some a couple of paragraphs.\r\n\r\nThat's horrible. That's where that's that tells me\r\n\r\nthis SEO person may not be able to be trusted.\r\n\r\nLike if it is was it just keyword stuffing or when you say unrelated words\r\n\r\nthis I can tell you right now this was a ad generated just with the way it reads\r\n\r\nYeah, put it at the bottom\r\n\r\nOh, they had like about us information in this blob. Well, that's that's not good.\r\n\r\nYeah.\r\n\r\nI don't know. Have we is this discussion helped at all?\r\n\r\nI mean, what do y'all think weigh in here in the chat? Sue saying move it down or split it and intersperse it? I don't know how you do this. Because this is a this is a category block.\r\n\r\nI don't know it's always hard. When you're dealing with an SEO, especially one.\r\n\r\nI don't know if you all have dealt with an SEO who was maybe really good at SEO 10 years ago, and still thinks they're really good at SEO. But they're still doing things the old The old way old fashioned way. And can't be told otherwise. Like it's really it's really I'm not saying that that happens, but it happens.\r\n\r\nAnyway, okay.\r\n\r\nOh, there's no more questions y'all. Have we have we come to the end of the internet?\r\n\r\nI know right. It's 237 Yeah, we've we've reached the end of the internet.\r\n\r\nTell us story. I don't have it in me I'm in a different timezone.\r\n\r\nLet's see what can we talk about? I am a little tired.\r\n\r\nIt's a very long day of traveling yesterday and probably the worst flight I've ever been on. Coming into.\r\n\r\nAuto uh, last night on a little bitty little bitty plane. We oh my gosh, we I have never been tossed around that much. And I've flown in a lot of small planes. We really like yeah, it was it was bad\r\n\r\nit was no it was a United flight. It was a it was an Embraer 175\r\n\r\nOh helicopter up to a mountain. That sounds like fun actually.\r\n\r\nBen, what did you fix?\r\n\r\nYeah, like a little tiny like, like an American Eagle. Regional.\r\n\r\nYeah, those are rough.\r\n\r\nSo if you fly out of Birmingham on American or actually on a lot of major airlines, it's going to be a little regional jet to get to the hub.\r\n\r\nThat doesn't really bother me.\r\n\r\nBut, yeah, so it was a little, little scary yesterday.\r\n\r\nHow do you get the most out of a word camp? That's a great question. I hope the number of word camps that are happening right now are so low and I'm ads really, I hate that. So I always go it's to get the most out of word camp.\r\n\r\nSo word camp, if Well, it depends on what your goals are. Right? So you can go to word camp there tend to be two extremes. Some people just go for conversations and connections. Other people just go for learning and then there's a spectrum in between. I tend to be more on the connecting and relationship side of things. Although, you know, there's certainly some talks I want to go here so I've got some talks checked that I'll attend this weekend.\r\n\r\nParticularly because you know if they're good, I'll hopefully we'll get them to present here on solid Academy. But yeah, I'll go go with an agenda in mind. You can look at the attendee list and see if there's people you want to meet and connect with. You know, always go and spend time with the vendors and talk to folks see what's going on what's coming new. Lot of times you'll see vendors for plugin stacks that you use. And that's really that's really cool to get to know some of those folks.\r\n\r\nOh, Sue.\r\n\r\nSue, Sue is right in the chat. And Beth's not here so that's all I'm gonna say about that.\r\n\r\nOh, my Okay. Ben has Ben Anderson has a question in the chat. And Marcia has one also. Excellent.\r\n\r\nAll right. Let's see Ben.\r\n\r\nOh, Klarna for the US.\r\n\r\nInteresting. Yeah. So how many of you are familiar with Klarna?\r\n\r\nKlarna is a payment processor. It is been correct me if I'm wrong. Similar to stripe in the in its role as a payment processor.\r\n\r\nJust another way to pay\r\n\r\nor in a pricing.\r\n\r\nOh, is this right 5.99%.\r\n\r\nBen, do you know why they're so much more expensive than others? I was caught. Wait a minute. Klarna is a\r\n\r\nit lets the yes it's the one that gives you multiple step payments. So this is actually wonderful we are this will be a good I don't know who I would get to present this. But this would be a really good actually live stream for our training. For us because Klarna for example, you pay 6% to Klarna and they take it from there you get your money and they work it out with the customer to be paid in four installments or whatever. That's totally worth 6% That is really interesting. I'm not seriously looked at this before\r\n\r\nYeah, interesting.\r\n\r\nYeah, then what so Ben is saying a website long term payment plan so that's interesting. Is it worth giving 6% of a website bill to another company.\r\n\r\nI mean, maybe it could save your account or your your accounts receivables hassles.\r\n\r\nI would almost rather manage that myself, I think and set them up on a payment plan. I don't know that's it's interesting.\r\n\r\nIt's interesting.\r\n\r\nYes, I've seen that on Amazon. They do offer Klarna or something similar. I'm surprised Amazon doesn't have their own thing for this. As big as they are I Firm A firm is another one. A FFI RM thanks, Tanya. Yeah, interesting.\r\n\r\nSue Did I just hear you say that Beth Livingston is in Ottawa.\r\n\r\nI thought she was over in like Newfoundland or something.\r\n\r\nI just saw pictures of Beth on Facebook.\r\n\r\nInteresting.\r\n\r\nI do not see Beth Livingston on the attendee list. All right. Anyway, Marcia is next\r\n\r\nah, Okey dokey.\r\n\r\nOkay, yes, Marcia would like to know, how do you use the iPad as a secondary monitor? Do you have to use a Mac as a primary monitor? Yes. So let me find the Hello. System Settings. Displays. Okay.\r\n\r\nSo here's how it works. My iPad is connected with a USB C cable to my Mac, you can do this with it's called sidecar in the MacOS and it works with Bluetooth but zoom doesn't it won't share that Bluetooth connected monitor. So I just have a little short you know, I don't know four or five inch, four inch probably USBC cable that connects these two and then you just add it as a display.\r\n\r\nLike that. It's pretty cool. Works great.\r\n\r\nLet's see soon as asking can you AirPlay from a PC to anything on your local wi depends on you can AirPlay to any device that supports it. So you know this is actually a more recent hotel and this TV might support AirPlay I haven't looked. That is one reason that usually like I bring oops, in my bag of tricks I do have a travel with a 10 foot HDMI cable.\r\n\r\nBut the puzzle because I will often if I'm doing a live stream, I will\r\n\r\nuse the big monitor is my primary monitor. But yeah, the positioning is just not good for this.\r\n\r\nIt depends on the TV whether or not it's going to support AirPlay or not.\r\n\r\nYeah\r\n\r\nAll right. Tammy has a question. Still space folks.\r\n\r\nAll right. I'm embarrassed to ask this as most people here are more tech savvy than I am. Don't be embarrassed to ask anything I want to move from my current hosting company to a different VPs and I'm worried about the gotchas. That's not a embarrassing question. That's a real question. What am I missing? I am probably overthinking it, but I really don't know a lot about server admin and it's been years since I moved sites. Yeah, so this is definitely not something you want to screw up. And honestly, this is going to get into DNS, which is one of the most easily screw up double things that we deal with.\r\n\r\nSo let's take this apart and think about it a little bit. So we got some time.\r\n\r\nAll right. You currently have a VPS Tammy is that right? Where all your sites are located.\r\n\r\nAnd you want to get to another one is the is your current VPS a cpanel VPS\r\n\r\nOkay, so, the first thing I would tell you is there's lots of other options besides cPanel out there now.\r\n\r\nYou know, lots of different hosting setups and you know, there's, you know, the new age of hosting for WordPress like cloudways and like grid pane and some of these and basically that new next gen if you want to say it's good and it's bad.\r\n\r\nIt will you know, you buy for example, cheap digital ocean or some other brand, you know, bare metal server or server resources, and they put their layer on top of it like cloudways is a layer that sits on top of the Digital Ocean server grid pane is the same way and those are there's nothing wrong with those, except for they don't own the hardware.\r\n\r\nIt's not their data center. They're just a software layer on top of the hosting infrastructure. So yeah, it's I've never gone in that direction. Because, you know, if hosting breaks, I really don't want to have to get into a battle between Is it the hosting provider or the software layer or I who, who's who's supporting me here, right? And that yeah, that's my own personal preference.\r\n\r\nThere's a lot of people that love that style of hosting.\r\n\r\nThat's awesome. I have opted we just moved servers opted to stick in a cpanel environment. Our old server aged out the Linux version aged out and that means they have to apparently blow up the server and you know, treaded for park or something? I don't know. Anyway, we went through it, but I stayed in a cpanel environment.\r\n\r\nJust because we know it and it's reliable. And you know, it just works.\r\n\r\ncPanel does cost more. And I see you saying there in the chat. It's a lot extra. I mean, depends on what a lot is.\r\n\r\nI think we're on 100 site license on that server and it's 30 bucks a month, something like that. I forget how much it is, but that's a drop in the bucket compared to you know, hosting income from that server. And it's totally worth it. The new WordPress toolkit just makes things so easy. It's quite good. And anyhow, so yeah, cPanel is a known quantity.\r\n\r\nAnd staying in something industry standard like cPanel gives you a lot of options for other hosts that you see panel for example, and they you know, they'll migrate that cPanel right over for you basically give them you know, your your root login and they'll move over all those C panels for you.\r\n\r\nOh, yes, so Tammy InterWorks. is So, history lesson.\r\n\r\nFive years ago, four years ago, something like that.\r\n\r\nWhen cPanel cPanel was acquired by someone, and then like two years after the acquisition, they almost doubled prices.\r\n\r\nBecause that's how companies do. Anyway, so in the because of those price increases liquidweb acquired a cpanel competitor called InterWorks. It does the same job as InterWorks but liquidweb Oh, we'll just bring that in. And we can offer this really no other cost to our users. So you know, what I think they're concerned about is was going to cause a big price increase, and it's not really acid cPanel but our customers are going to blame us right? So we'll bring it in or no works is fine. There's I know people that use it and like it well I've I'm a geezer I don't change things very often. That's why things don't break, I think also.\r\n\r\nSo we've just stayed in cPanel the whole time.\r\n\r\nSo yeah, if you stick with liquidweb Are you on liquidweb now Tammy, are you someplace else?\r\n\r\nNow known house okay, so not as great. I know those guys.\r\n\r\nObviously, we're liquid web company. Here at solid WP liquid web is excellent.\r\n\r\nThe here's the thing. With liquid web, you're going to get good support. You're just going to in you're going to get a real live person almost immediately by ticket phone or chat 24\/7.\r\n\r\nRight.\r\n\r\nSo that's, you know, they're a little bit more expensive than other hosts, but that's why so particularly if your situation is you don't want to be and have to know a lot about server management. And you want to stick with a VPS I mean, liquid web might be the way to go for you even though they cost a little bit more. The known host Yeah, like you're gonna get good, good support.\r\n\r\nSo that's, that's definitely worth considering.\r\n\r\nLet's see.\r\n\r\nThe process of migrating a server it's really honestly all about DNS. DNS is going to be the headache in all of this.\r\n\r\nIt depends on how you are set up with DNS. Now Tammy, do you have your own name servers? Or are those domains using a known host name server? You have your own name servers.\r\n\r\nOoh, that'll make it easy. So if you have your own name servers, and it's ns one.tammy.com, right, and as to.tammy.com All you'll have to do, like the process would be could be big asterisk.\r\n\r\nAs simple as liquidweb migrates over all your C panels when they're there, and they're there ready to go? All you'll have to do is change the two IP addresses on your name servers to point to the new server and you're done.\r\n\r\nBut that's it. Because all the domains out there have, you know, they're just, they're just going to the name servers and you're changing where the name servers point and you're done. Now, what you'll want to do before all of this is make absolutely sure that all the domains that are on that server, look at what the name servers are for those domains just to make sure everything is what it's supposed to be.\r\n\r\nWe took this opportunity because we had you know, we have some clients where we manage their DNS others we don't for various reasons. Anyway, we took the opportunity in the Server migration process to go ahead and move everybody or just about everybody behind Cloudflare. So it took a lot longer. But we're in a great spot now where everything's running through Cloudflare and so forth.\r\n\r\nOh, that's a good question.\r\n\r\nTammy, do you have is the server does it you are you providing email to your clients through your server?\r\n\r\nYeah, so the thing about cPanel is when you slurp over a cpanel from one server to another, the email goes with it because it's all in that big cPanel bundle. Now the problem is it talking to clients about the transition process, because there's probably going to be a day ish where things you know, as DNS propagates and things change where it might get a little squirrely with email.\r\n\r\nYeah, if Yeah, and like Stacey saying, if you want to go to a different system other than cPanel then you got to you're able to account for email and the client, they're going to set up email somewhere else and then get all their inbox over there. It's a nightmare.\r\n\r\nYeah, and this could be honestly, Tammy, I would, I would encourage you in this server move to tell those clients that are still hangers on with the email that you're on your new server, we will no longer be able to support email. Now, the server technically might support email, but you are no longer going to support email with this new server. Maybe it's a good excuse just to get rid of those last email clients because you're not making any money on there. And it's just a hassle. Yeah, right. So move them over to Google workspace office 365 or use liquid webs.\r\n\r\nbusiness email, it's pretty good.\r\n\r\nYeah.\r\n\r\nIt's all going to be about DNS.\r\n\r\nAnd getting those things over the most web hosts and liquidweb does have a migrations team, and this is all they do. All day long. All they do is move sites from one server to another so anything else on this Tammy that we didn't talk through?\r\n\r\nAnybody else have nuances of web server movement? That you want to drop in there?\r\n\r\nAll right, now we're actually done. I think we're done.\r\n\r\nOh, Karen, are there any webinars in the library about server admin? Not really not really, that's not been something we've ever really done training on.\r\n\r\nIt's hard to do. Because, I mean, it depends on what server platform you're on, right of what that looks like. So we always do them yeah, there's their their live streams and trainings that we've done that touch on server tasks, like getting into cPanel and doing some things but I don't think we would ever probably do a here's how to use cPanel training it's just it's really not in our sphere of things.\r\n\r\nGood and Stacy's making another point. So, good point here and that's make sure that whatever where you can really get into trouble, Tammy is if you go from an environment that is cPanel, which is running Apache, and it's called a LAMP stack, Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP. If you move to another server that's using X for example, instead of Apache, that's where things can get a little squirrely. So try to match you know, if you want to keep your hassle factor down, try to match server environments as closely as possible.\r\n\r\nOh, if you still have sites that are on 7.4 anymore, anybody want to help Tammy with that?\r\n\r\nTammy, I think there's some folks here that might be able to help you with that.\r\n\r\nBut yeah, it's likely you have it's virtually certain that you have things in plugins that don't know what 7.4 is. And so when like the process looks like champ moot bumping up to eight it's gonna crash, but then look at your error log. You may need to put up a you know, do a staging site, but look at the error log. It'll tell you what the theme or plugin is then you just have to replace it.\r\n\r\nIf a theme or plugin is not PHP seven, four compatible, you should replace that anyway, because it likely is way out of date. And it probably has security vulnerabilities.\r\n\r\nYeah, there were only like a few plugins that we when we moved over, when we bumped up from seven, four to eight. There were a few plugins that gave some problems.\r\n\r\nBut it's that sort of thing of we needed to replace those anyway or they really didn't need to be on the site. We just got rid of it all.\r\n\r\nWe did there is a live stream back from a couple years ago when PHP eight came out where the one of the people from Nexus came on and talked about going from seven, four to eight and a good process there.\r\n\r\nBut yeah, it's basically what I just described to you.\r\n\r\nAll right, everybody, that's gonna wrap it up for us. We just hit three central so next week. Let's see here. Got a bunch of stuff coming up next week actually.\r\n\r\nSo coming up next week is news round up. But remember, we move news round up to Wednesday of next week, so that we could do the WordPress six that six launch party WordPress six six will launch on Tuesday, July the 16th. Probably right around the time we're doing this live stream that tend to drop in the middle of the afternoon. So Timothy will be with us on Tuesday to talk about WordPress six six news roundup comes on Wednesday of next week. And then of course office hours on July the 18th. The following week, we have Kathy Zant, with us talking all about WordPress security audits. And then of course, office hours and this month's premium course if you've not signed up for it yet. Lindsey Halsey is going to be with us on July 30 and 31st talking about advanced SEO. So a lot of good stuff coming up here in the next couple of weeks. Looking forward to that. Have a great weekend. I will see you back here on Yeah, on Tuesday. And I don't know how in this new zoom you in the webinar.\r\n\r\nHow many of you hate the new zoom as much as I do? Is Am I just getting too old for this zoom garbage like what? What's the deal? I don't even see end webinar.\r\n\r\nIt's not at the bottom right. It's not here. I promise.\r\n\r\nOkay, I'm just gonna force to quit it. Have a great weekend. I'll see you back here Tuesday.\r\n\r\nTranscribed by https:\/\/otter.ai\r\n","livestream_vimeo_video_id":982778486}},"postCountOnPage":1,"postCountTotal":1,"postID":448536,"postFormat":"standard","geoCloudflareCountryCode":"US"}; dataLayer.push( dataLayer_content );
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